Friday, April 9, 2010

Man Without a Country

On Wednesday, WaPo's Krissah Thompson examined the division among black conservatives over reports of tea party activists using racial slurs against members of Congress. While some black conservatives have spoken out against racism in the tea party movement, others like economist, Thomas Sowell and anti-affirmative action activist, Ward Connerly have denied the allegations claiming that the charges are politically motivated and baseless.

At the National Review's Corner blog, Connerly claims that, "race is the engine that drives the political Left." This is poetic, but unprovable, meaningless, and consequently absurd. From this false premise he further argues that claims of tea party members spitting on a congressman and hurling racial epithets are part of a "strategic plan being implemented by the Left in its current campaign to remake America." Strategic Plan? What plan? Nobody told me about this plan! Governing? Is that the plan he's referring to?

Pops, you officially lunchin'.

Connerly's proof of such a plan is that there is (to him) no recorded evidence of this racial hatred despite the presence of cameras at the healthcare reform protest:

"In a video that has been played repeatedly showing CBC members as they walked past the tea partiers, Congressman Jesse Jackson Jr. is seen using his telephone to tape the event. If he had any evidence to corroborate the racial claims, why hasn’t he come forward with his phone by now to settle this matter? I believe we all know the answer."

We do?

Whether there is evidence of this particular spat of tea party racism or not (and there is), what does that have to do with some broad scheme by the Left to remake America? Connerly leaps from a claim of lack of evidence to a claim of political conspiracy. This is, again, abusrd. If you want to make a claim about lack of evidence of a particular incident (like spitting or using racial slurs) that's relatively easy to prove or disprove with a recording. But, if you want to make a case about the Left using race to advance an agenda, make that case; show us real history and evidence supporting your allegation, otherwise, you just sound silly.

Economist and black conservative, Thomas Sowell has also expressed doubt that tea partiers spat on a black congressman and hurled racial epithets. Similar to Connerly, Sowell claims that injecting race into politics and "playing the race card" have "become an increasingly common response to growing public anger at the policies of the Obama administration and the way those policies have been imposed."

Sowell continues:

"When the triumphant Democrats made their widely televised walk up Capitol Hill after passing the health care bill, led by a smirking and strutting Nancy Pelosi, holding her oversized gavel, some of the crowd of citizens expressed their anger. According to some Democrats, these expressions of anger included racial slurs directed at black members of Congress.

This is a serious charge-- and one deserving of some serious evidence. But, despite all the media recording devices on the scene, not to mention recording devices among the crowd gathered there, nobody can come up with a single recorded sound to back up that incendiary charge. Worse yet, some people have claimed that even doubting the charge suggests that you are a racist."

I respect Sowell's scholarship deeply. And I followed his columns for quite some time, but at some point this cat jumped the shark. Why such a hard on for liberals, Sowell? Get over it. Liberals are not the Great Enemy. There are some liberals who do bad things, as there are within every group. But the vast majority of liberals are just people with a slightly different political perspective than conservatives. It's really not that deep.

Before we roll the tape, let's think about injecting race into politics or bringing up race at all in any instance. If a racist act occurs what exactly are we supposed to do or say about it? Is noting a racist act wrong? Is noting a racist act the same thing as injecting race into the discussion or playing the race card? No. Race, as a concept, is a fact. I explore race on my blog and in my life because it's interesting to me and it's a part of my personal history and my understanding of existence. But so is literature; so is philosophy; so is sex; so is food; so is humor; so is art. I talk about these things; we talk about these things; because they are parts of life that we find fascinating or disturbing or meaningful. I don't bring up race to gain some type of advantage over anyone. I bring up race because it is part of life.

Anyway, news documentation and recordings clearly show that Sowell and Connerly are wrong about tea partiers use of racial slurs:

McClathy Newspapers' William Douglas reported on March 20, 2010, Tea party protesters scream 'nigger' at black congressman.

Salon's Joan Walsh on tea party racism:

"Civil rights hero Rep. John Lewis was taunted by tea partiers who chanted "nigger" at least 15 times, according to the Associated Press (we are not cleaning up language and using "the N-word" here because it's really important to understand what was said.) First reported on The Hill blog (no hotbed of left-wing fervor), the stories of Lewis being called "nigger" were confirmed by Lewis spokeswoman Brenda Jones and Democratic Rep. Andre Carson, who was walking with Lewis. "It was like going into the time machine with John Lewis," said Carson, a former police officer. "He said it reminded him of another time." Another Congressional Black Caucus leader, Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, was spat upon by protesters. The culprit was arrested, but Cleaver declined to press charges."

Media Matters and CBS confirmed racial epithets and threats left in a recording for Rep. Bart Stupak.

And then there's this:



Sowell and Connerly are wrong. There is ample evidence of tea party racism and harrassment. It's not like this information was difficult to find, so what's really going on here?

Black conservatives strike me as tragic figures. Each seems to be a man without a country. They are perpetually critical of members of their own race which tends to alienate black people. But the white, conservative groups they seek comfort in are inhospitable as well, which leaves them no true home. I can sort of relate to that; the drive to define ourselves on our own terms and the consequences we pay for that stubborn individuality are, at times, difficult.  The issue to me in those instances, is integrity. Will you consistently hold the same values even if there's a price to pay? If Sowell and Connerly agree that racism is wrong, then integrity should compel them to point it out and condemn it, even when it comes from their friends in the tea party.

Side black conservative note: Whatever happened to that guy who wrote A Bound Man: Why We are Excited about Obama and Why He Can't Win? Does he still have a job?

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18 comments:

Anonymous said...

Oh my bad. Your server finally displayed the link. Where's the proof for the racial epithets? You are actually crying RACIST! over those signs? You can't be serious. I still say go try to collect your $100k with your proof. Bring it all. Hey I'll be in DC for the 8/28 event. You want to walk around with me and point out all the racism that will be on display?

E R Hull said...

Yeah, your bad. The proof of racial epithets is documented in news accounts above the video. I'll repost the quote you didn't bother to read:

"McClathy Newspapers' William Douglas reported on March 20, 2010, Tea party protesters scream 'nigger' at black congressman.

Salon's Joan Walsh on tea party racism:

"Civil rights hero Rep. John Lewis was taunted by tea partiers who chanted "nigger" at least 15 times, according to the Associated Press (we are not cleaning up language and using "the N-word" here because it's really important to understand what was said.) First reported on The Hill blog (no hotbed of left-wing fervor), the stories of Lewis being called "nigger" were confirmed by Lewis spokeswoman Brenda Jones and Democratic Rep. Andre Carson, who was walking with Lewis. "It was like going into the time machine with John Lewis," said Carson, a former police officer. "He said it reminded him of another time." Another Congressional Black Caucus leader, Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, was spat upon by protesters. The culprit was arrested, but Cleaver declined to press charges."

Media Matters and CBS confirmed racial epithets and threats left in a recording for Rep. Bart Stupak. "

Anonymous said...

Pretty lame evidence of racism if you ask me. If you are going to try to discredit the Tea Party you will have to do much better than that A few those signs were over the top and Tea Party members are discouraged from such messaging. But not nearly as offensive as the "Fuck Bush" and assassination fantasies of leftist protesters that were quite the fashion among leftists demonstrators. I hardly consider "Take Back America" or "God Bless Beck and Rush" are evidence of racism (except to lefties like yourself that consider them racists because they oppose liberal/progressive policies.) I would think with the thousands of Tea Party event that have taken place you would be able to come up with hundreds of images much stronger than some birther signs.

And your proof (or rather that of fellow lefty Joan Walsh) of the derogatory remarks is the word of John lewis and his aids? Why would this carry any weight? They have it in for the Tea Party and anything they have to say about it is biased. Oh yea, he marched back in the sixties so he has absolute moral authority (sorta like Cindy Sheehan.) Your evidence doesn't even rise to the level of hearsay as it comes from the accusers.

How about some interviews with capitol Hill police who surely would have witnessed the alleged incidents? Epic failure, please try again.

E R Hull said...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/20/AR2010032002556.html

"Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.) issued a statement late Saturday saying that he was spit upon while walking to the Capitol to cast a vote, leading the Capitol Police to usher him into the building out of concern for his safety. Police detained the individual, who was then released because Cleaver declined to press charges.

"The congressman was walking into the Capitol to vote, when one protester spat on him. The congressman would like to thank the U.S. Capitol Police officer who quickly escorted the other Members and him into the Capitol, and defused the tense situation with professionalism and care," said Danny Rotert, a spokesman for Cleaver."

And here's a link to the video where you can see the event

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmP4Gb2pEsY

Anonymous said...

The article you reference at the McLathy Newspapers says

"Demonstrators outside the U.S. Capitol, angry over the proposed health care bill, shouted "nigger" Saturday at U.S. Rep. John Lewis, a Georgia congressman "
However the video does not even show congressman Lewis or any of the event where the racist comment accusations are made. This is a classic media trick of writing one thing based on evidence of something else and not very convincing evidence at that.

On the other hand the racist comments by Minister Shabazz as shown in this clear and unrefutable evidence http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=175817 as provided by Chelsea Shilling WorldNetDaily goes without serious comment from you.

Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/03/20/90772/rep-john-lewis-charges-protesters.html#ixzz0tfvHJawo

E R Hull said...

I understand that newspaper documentation is somehow insufficent for some people depending on whether it supports their case or not. But for most reasonable people, documentation from a reliable newspaper source is sufficient.

Anonymous said...

Reasonable people would have responded to the documented proof of Minister Shabazz racist hate speak instead of considering a restatement of an accusation as proof of the accusation.

E R Hull said...

Audi on youtube is down so I can't hear the compelling video that you've produced from World Nut Daily.

But even without watching the video I can diffuse your argument pretty easily. There have been claims of tea party racism that have been documented by evidence. You answered those claims of racism by presenting a video of an offensive Black person. But I'm NOT a member of that offensive Black person's group. You, presumably ARE a member of the tea party. I'm not defending anybody's racist behavior. You apparently are.

Anonymous said...

I accurately reflected information from you source including using the correct names, videos etc. You on the other hand decided to call World Net Daily as World Nut Daily and since you blog regularly accidentaly replacing an e with a u is not likely. It seems you have made up your minde before reviewing the actual information from both your source and mine.

Audio is not having any trouble on Youtube, perhaps its your willingness to actually listen.

What groups we are members of is irrelevant I thought we were both part of the "No Racism in any form should be tolerated" group. You are willing to condemn without evidence and yet you fail to condemn when unrefutable evidence of racism is provided. I am still seeking actual evidence for your claim which neither you or anyone else has provided yet. Certainly not as direct and unrefutable as the evidence of racism I have provided. Your position does not hold water and you still seek to ignore direct evidence of racism and hate speak. I on the other hand condemn all racism and hate speak regardless of source. I will not however condemn without clear evidence as you are so willing to do.

E R Hull said...

Right.

Again, I'm neither a member of the tea party or the New Black Panthers and I neither condone nor promote either of their activities. And you?

Answering the charge of racism against the tea party by claiming that a black person was also racist, doesn't do much to resolve the claim against the tea party, does it?

No Black people I know support the new Black Panther Party or voter intimidation and as I understand it, it was the Bush Administration that dropped criminal charges against them. So, I can only disavow them so many ways.

You on the other hand have made no effort to disavow clear evidence of tea party racism.

Anonymous said...

What clear evidence? the evidence you provided I have already shown to be unrelated to the event in question with John Lewis. The evidence I presented was presented to test whether you are actually opposed to racism or only opposed to certain groups and using racism to discredit them. I think we can all see you are selective in what you will condemn as racism.

E R Hull said...

I think you've missed the point Anonymous: there have been charges of tea party racism. There is ample evidence showing that tea party members have indeed conveyed racist messages. I'm not sure why you think some comment about John Lewis diffuses the claim that tea party members have conveyed racist messages because, well, it doesn't.

Anonymous said...

Deroy Murdock agrees there is no evidence of what John Lewis claims and youu apparently claim was done by the Tea Party.

"I condemn the NAACP. I condemn it because I still am waiting to see video footage and/or hear audio tape to prove their repeated accusations that Tea Party activists hurled “racial epithets” at Representative John Lewis (D-GA) and other black members of Congress just before the House of Representatives’ final votes on ObamaCare."

http://biggovernment.com/dmurdock/2010/07/14/i-condemn-the-naacp-where-is-the-evidence-of-tea-party-racism/

It's time for you to find actual evidence before you become unrespected for supporting false accusations of others.

E R Hull said...

As I stated above: McClathy Newspapers' William Douglas reported on March 20, 2010, Tea party protesters scream 'nigger' at black congressman.

Apparently there is no video evidence to support that newspaper report. There is however video evidence of Rep. Emmanuel Cleaver being spat upon as well as significant evidence of tea party members brandishing racist signs and making racist statements.

The actual evidence is contained above in the post as well as in the responses that I have provided. For example this link which I posted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmP4Gb2pEsY

So to review, several people have accused the tea party of making racist acts;

Your response to that was, well the New Black Panthers are racist too.

You also claimed that since there is no video evidence of the newspaper report of congressmen being slurred then it could not have happened.

In answer to the video showing tea party protesters holding racist signs as well as news reports about Bart Stupak receiving threatening/racist messages; and the video of Cleaver being spit upon, you haven't said much.

I'm not really sure what you're trying to accomplish at this point.

Anonymous said...

My point has been pretty simple, do you condemn racism or only selected racism. You have answered that point very well and have lost the respect of others I'm sure because of it.

I condemn all racism however I will not condemn any person or group without direct irrefutable evidence. You on the other hand need little to do so when dealing with selective groups you disagree with.

E R Hull said...

Got it. Great point. Anything else?

Anonymous said...

Mr. Hull, I watched the youtube link you have. It appears that the Congressman received spittle from the mouth of a yelling protester. I'm certain he was disgusted by it but the man he speaks to is yelling words. So, I am not sure if it was on purpose or an accident.

Either way, please inform me how this is racist. Because the Congressman was black? Really? Were those people yelling "kill the deal" to only the black members of Congress? That's a lousy piece of evidence for racism.

As for the other claims - similar signs were used of Bush 4 years ago and no one claimed racism. So some of this is stretching it and "seeing racism at every corner." Now if anyone used the "n" word then he should be ashamed of himself. There is no place for such language or real racism.

But let me ask this - as a man whose father came over from Italy, should I feel outrage every time I hear someone use the word "dago"? Just asking...

E R Hull said...

First, I'm not sure if you're aware, but spitting on someone is actually considered assault in the eyes of the law. It's a pretty dehumanzing act that I know I'd have a hard time remaining civil about afterward. Imagine if someone spit on one of your family members during these protests. Imagine if it was someone who was hostile toward you or your family.

You mentioned the N-word: I believe the video shows at least one protester carrying a sign with the n-word. McLatchey newspapers also affirmed the use of the n-word and the healthcare reform rally. So if the n-word is your threshold for offense, there it is.

At the end of the day, you can make of the evidence showing tea party racism what you will. If you think it's o.k. to spit on people or to carry around signs comparing people to monkeys or threatening to hang people, well that's you and that's how you think the world should be.

I wrote this post to document what I have seen in the news so that months and years from now when people say, "that didn't happen", I can point to videos like the one attached and newspaper stories like the ones I cite and say, "yes, that did happen on this date and these were the people involved."

You are free to feel anger or not at whatever you want. I've heard of Black people who have no problem with anyone using the n-word or calling them the n-word. And hey, that's on them. I don't feel that way. I take slurs, threats, and harrassment seriously and I'm not really willing to let other people decide when I should be offended by a slur or threat directed at me or my family. If you think it's o.k. for people to call you or your son or daughter or wife or mother a "dago", more power to you.

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